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sackett
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posted 06-26-2009 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sackett   Click Here to Email sackett     Edit/Delete Message
As a routine part of our profession we form and provide opinions about the truthfulness of our examinees.

My question is; is it appropriate to put our opinions in the body of the report concerning what we perceive as the examinee's feelings, apparent emotions, etc? Is there anything which prohibits this commentary? I'll give a couple of examples of what I mean:

"The examinee reported to my office with intense emotions in his eyes..."

"The examinee tried to be as honest as he could be..."

"The examinee appeared to be carrying a heavy weight on his mind..."

"The examinee gave great effort in recalling information which was personally embarrassing..."

etc, etc, etc

Opinions?


Jim

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J.B. McCloughan
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posted 06-26-2009 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.B. McCloughan   Click Here to Email J.B. McCloughan     Edit/Delete Message
Jim,

I personally would refrain from putting statements in a report that, among other things, state how someone else was feeling, unless they made the statement.

I sometimes use the observations you wrote to ask the person questions. If they respond to it or provide their own explanation, I document it, when relevant.

In my State, we are prohibited to put diagnostic opinions in our report that are outside of truth and deception. So I must be very carful as to what I write in the report.

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ebvan
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posted 06-26-2009 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
We use our objective observations of collected data to render opinions regarding truth or deception; Our training and experience qualify us to do this regarding deception. That is not necessarily true with other conditions. A subjective observation regarding state of mind based on unarticulated observation is something I consider outside my area of expertise when I am conducting a polygraph examination. I don't think that interpreting emotion not recordable on an instrument is appropriate to our work. I think we should confine ourselves to what we can support with our science. Especially in our reports.

However I see no problem in articulating observable behaviors if it is apparent they are possibly affecting our results and letting the reader determine what those observations mean.

In other words instead of "The examinee reported to my office with intense emotions in his eyes" I would prefer "When I met with the examinee I noticed that his eyes were waterey. It appeared that he had either been crying or was upon the verge of doing so. His teeth were tightly clenched and his face and neck red in contrast to the color of his ears which appeared pale. Concerned that these characteristics were possibly indicative of some unidentified emotional disturbance that might interfere with his polygraph examination, I asked the examiee if something was bothering him. He assured me that nothing was wrong but indicated that he had just finished a burrito before entering my office and whoever had constructed said burrito had placed all of the habanero sauce in the very last bite. The examinee was given time for the pain to subside and the test was completed.

As J.B. pointed out those statements can better be used to elicit information from a subject. I have successfully used the line" You seem to be carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders" as an opening line in an interrogation more than once.

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ckieso
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posted 06-26-2009 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ckieso   Click Here to Email ckieso     Edit/Delete Message
As the old saying goes, "just the facts maam"

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stat
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posted 06-27-2009 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
Jeez I laughed hard at ebvan's burrito story. Thanks for that one fella!
In a review of an exam,it is often asked by hirees or powers "what emotional state was Fred appearing...." or "did you happen to notice.....". I think it wise to make observational notes in a report---especially if the examinee appears to be intoxicated or in a peculiar state of mind---even if it is their baseline way of being. Now, are we toxicologists, or behavioral clinicians?---of course not. BUT, I have never seen any reason to NOT (double negative, my specialty) make note in the fashion of "the examinee presented with a shirt that read ' give me xenex or give me death" or "the examinee presented with sarcasm (or petulance)" or "the examinee appeared to have an erection when discussing the incident." These examples all reflect---as JB noted as being hands-off "emotional state.." issues, relevant and observable behaviors that are emotionally driven or likely to be such. Observable emotional characteristics are a necessesary part of the test---as it can be a predictor or sometimes a deal-breaker---or as ebvan pointed out, a great theme builder for interrogation. Sackett's use of "intense" in describing emotions is far too subjective, and if I were to write, "the examinee appeared to have an intense erection..." would be crossing a line that would certainly gain me notoriety in my field for being less scientific and more "Kinsey-esque." I did however on a few occasions desribe in writing that "the examinee presented as assaulting this examiner's olfactory senses in a most unpleasant and even offensive fashion." Fortunately, I have yet to test an examinee with both a horrific smell AND a hard on. We can only hope for such a combo though, eh?

While impressions are perhaps unrelated or mere coincidence of/to the issue for testing, I don't believe we should ignore our impressions through ommision as there always seems to be a valid and objective way (easy Ray--I used the "v" word")of describing those impressions.

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I see nothing wrong with adding in a report something sterile to the effect of " the examinee gave this examiner the impression that he was intensly emotionalized during his recollection of the incident." But that may be a creative (subjective)liberty I wouldn't take unless there were physical tears or wailing and weap-hiccups. The latter being more tangible behaviors than the former.

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rnelson
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posted 06-27-2009 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing wrong with describing our obsevations.

Clinical inferences about causes and conditions are obviously out of line.

Descriptions of emotional state are not a diagnosis per se. They are just clinical inferences (I.e., mind reading). A diagnosis would included the use of words with stipulative diagnostic meaning - words like 'depression' or 'anxiety' or other words that have describable symptom clusters attached to them. Even so, polygraph examiners and therapists should both stay out of the mind reading bidness. BTW we polygraph examiners do more mind reading (attempting to articulate what someone else is thinking or feeling) than many therapist. Just listen to our fancy-schmancy rationale and descriptions of our PLCs - which will sound to some psychotherapists like projection and projective identification.

Adjectives like ' intense' or 'severe' are just added drama for theatric impact. In actual clinical work, 'intense' means nothing. It has no operational or stipulated defintion. On the other hand, 'severe means: interfers with effective functioning in multiple domains or arenas such as social, occupational, educational, or interpersonal. So a problem should not be called severe unless there is evidence of disruptive impact in multiple areas (unless it's one of stat's gassers).

It would be better to describe our observations. For example: examinee expressed anger and distrust toward his probation officer (has actually happened.) Better still - quote the examinee verbatim. For example:"she's a cold hearted bitch who doesn't give a damn about me." (Actual statement.) Maybe he meant it in a nice freindly way. I dunno. It is always the resulting impact that matters more than the intent. The words themselves are now inescapable.

Sackett knows all this already...before taking this little survey.

So, we've taken the bait.

Where's the punchline Jim?

R

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sackett
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posted 06-27-2009 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sackett   Click Here to Email sackett     Edit/Delete Message
Ray,

What?! I? Bait? A punchline? Surely you jest...? :-)

Of course I agree with the opinions, and due to my "unique nature", appreciate "stats" jocularity relative to my question (i.e. intense erection; versus, what BTW???)

Anyway, I have heard of an examiner doing just that; writing in a novel-esque manner and repeatedly projecting that examiner's personal feelings rather than observations in reports. Would be too humorous, if not so sad...

All, thanks for the input. Hopefully, your opinions will have an impact.


Jim

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